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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186324" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186324">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>cc <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="250987">@apiraino</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="232545">@Joshua Nelson</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186343" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186343">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>love the title <span aria-label="laughing" class="emoji emoji-1f606" role="img" title="laughing">:laughing:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186357" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> apiraino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186357">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh I was creating another one :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186374" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186374">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's an existential question <span aria-label="joy" class="emoji emoji-1f602" role="img" title="joy">:joy:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186376" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> apiraino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186376">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>reference: <a href="#narrow/stream/245100-t-compiler.2Fwg-prioritization.2Falerts/topic/I-prioritize.20.2379908.20regression.201.2E49.3A.20macro_rules.20unexpected.E2.80.A6">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/245100-t-compiler.2Fwg-prioritization.2Falerts/topic/I-prioritize.20.2379908.20regression.201.2E49.3A.20macro_rules.20unexpected.E2.80.A6</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186453" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186453">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>so the discussion is about if we should prioritize when we don't have a lot of info or just wait</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186478" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186478">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:06)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="250987">@apiraino</span> have said ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186481" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186481">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:06)</a>:</h4>
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<p>my reasoning (perhaps incorrect) is that an incomplete issue (without a clear analysis), even with a P-high label, is less useful for the team. it's like we're just signaling "hey look at this but we don't have a lot to say about it"</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186486" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186486">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't feel super strongly about this, but I think if you do we should ask T-compiler what they'd prefer</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186500" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186500">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>since the whole point of this is to make things easier at the weekly meetings</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186523" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186523">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>my reasoning is ... I'd rather add to the agenda and have the team giving a quick look</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186529" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186529">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>just in case</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186544" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186544">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>and maybe all of us would help move things forward</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186557" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186557">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>but in particular, I'd rather not miss something important due to lack of some information</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186608" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186608">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd prefer playing a bit of a guess game in certain cases</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186616" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186616">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>we can always lower the priority later</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186641" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> apiraino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186641">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:08)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="232545">Joshua Nelson</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler.2Fwg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question/near/220186500">said</a>:</p>
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<p>since the whole point of this is to make things easier at the weekly meetings</p>
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<p>I agree on <span aria-label="point up" class="emoji emoji-1f446" role="img" title="point up">:point_up:</span>  -  the team has to squeeze a lot in an hour. If we just throw a <code>P-high</code> issue without a history they can only "take note" and nothing else</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186661" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> apiraino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186661">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>we can recognize a <code>P-critical</code> (in most cases)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186696" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> apiraino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186696">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think a potential <code>P-high</code> is worth the wait</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186719" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186719">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>well about that maybe the question is a bit different</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186721" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> apiraino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186721">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>... meaning worth waiting a better triaging</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186740" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186740">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we should not do the agenda in the way we do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186800" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186800">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>but that would be independent of tagging issues <code>P-high</code> or <code>P-critical</code> or P-whatever</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186816" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186816">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I meant, maybe we should build the agenda using our current procedure and then remove certain things from it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186859" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186859">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm saying to make an agenda paying extra attention to what's going to be discussed, how much time do we have, is it important to discuss everything?, etc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186892" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186892">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>like we might see that a <code>P-critical</code> issue is taken care and we may skip for the sake of discussing other things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186902" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186902">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>the same with any other issue</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to%20prioritize%20or%20not%20to%20prioritize%2C%20that%20is%20the%20question/near/220186919" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/227806-t-compiler/wg-prioritization/topic/to.20prioritize.20or.20not.20to.20prioritize.2C.20that.20is.20the.20question.html#220186919">(Dec 16 2020 at 23:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>we basically put in the agenda whatever our script throw at us</p>



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